[uylug-varios] On Richard Stallman and Ubuntu
Sebastian Gurin
sgurin at montevideo.com.uy
Tue Dec 11 07:34:41 PST 2012
Le doy toda la razón a Stallman. Aunque se pueda desactivar, si eso viene por defecto, entonces
1) hay plata de por medio
2) se le pregunta al usuario ? (Hasta Windows nos pregunta, a veces, cuando quiere hacer ese tipo de cosas).
3) con las nuevas legislaciones en EEUU no hay privacidad en ese país
4) la postura de stallman, que a veces roza la paranoia, esta vez está totalmente justificada
On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 13:23:24 -0200
Federico Kouyoumdjian <fedekp at autistici.org> wrote:
> Otro punto de vista:
>
> http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/12/07/on-richard-stallman-and-ubuntu/
>
> On Richard Stallman and Ubuntu
>
> by jono on December 7, 2012 in Community, Desktop, Planet Ubuntu, Ubuntu
>
> This is a personal post and does not neccessarily represent the views of
> Canonical or the Ubuntu community.
>
> Today Richard Stallman, founder of the GNU project and Free Software
> Foundation wrote a critical post accusing Ubuntu of shipping spyware
> (which is referring to the online search capabilities of the Ubuntu dash).
>
> He goes on to suggest “in your Software Freedom Day events, in your
> FLISOL events, don’t install or recommend Ubuntu. Instead, tell people
> that Ubuntu is shunned for spying.“.
>
> This is FUD.
>
> When controvosies such as this kick off from time to time about
> Canonical and/or Ubuntu, my approach has never been to try and convince
> our critics that they are wrong. My goal is not to turn the unbelievers
> into worshippers at the church of Ubuntu. My only goal has been to
> ensure that everyone who participates in the debate trades in facts and
> not in misinformation and FUD; there is enough misinformation and FUD on
> the Internet without us all adding to it. :-)
>
> If someone has an accurate set of facts and accurately respresents the
> topic but is critical about the position…no problem. We can then engage
> in respectful, accurate debate that will likely enrich all perspectives
> and ultimately result in better software.
>
> The goal of the dash in Ubuntu has always been to provide a central
> place in which you can search and find things that are interesting and
> relavent to you; it is designed to be at the center of your computing
> experience. Now, this is a big goal, and we are only part-way along the
> way to achieving it.
>
> Today it is not perfect – we need to improve the accuracy of the
> results, present the data more effectively, and continue to expand the
> coverage and capabilities of the data in dash searches. With each new
> release of Ubuntu we get awesome feedback from our community and users
> and we strive to refine and iterate on all of these areas so that
> subsequent releases offer a more and more compelling experience, freely
> available and sharable for all.
>
> Naturally, privacy is critically important to us in doing this work. In
> the eight year history of Ubuntu and Canonical we have always put
> privacy forward as a high priority across the many, many different
> websites, services, and software that forms the Ubuntu platform and
> community.
>
> The challenge of course is that privacy is a deeply personal thing and
> the way in which you define your privacy expectations will likely
> radically differ from each of your friends, and vice-versa.
>
> With this in mind, just because someone may have differing views to mine
> on the implementation of privacy in software doesn’t mean they are
> wrong. Likewise, just because my views may differ to theirs doesn’t mean
> I am wrong. We are all different and we all manage our information and
> our expectations around information sharing in different ways.
>
> Just look at Facebook; the privacy debates there have been raging on for
> years and have encompassed many different views and perspectives ranging
> from “I want to control every detail of my privacy in Facebook” to “I
> don’t care, if it is on the Internet, I don’t care who sees it”, and
> everything in-between.
>
> We want Ubuntu to be a safe, predictable, and pleasurable platform for
> everyone, irrespective of their personal views on privacy, but we also
> respect that there will be some folks who don’t feel we are doing enough
> to represent their particular personal privacy needs.
>
> When we implemented the Amazon search results feature we didn’t get it
> 100% right with the first cut in the development release of Ubuntu, but
> that is how we build Ubuntu; we add software to our development branch
> and iterate on it in response to feedback and bugs. We did exactly this
> with these functional and privacy concerns…responding and implementing
> many of the requirements our community felt were important. We will
> continue to make these improvements in the future in much the same way.
>
> Now, some of you may share Richard’s concerns over some aspects of this
> feature, and as I mentioned earlier, I am not here to convince you
> otherwise. Richard has every right to share his views on privacy, and
> who am I to tell him or you that he is/you are wrong?
>
> What concerns me more is the FUD in his post. Statements such as:
>
> In your Software Freedom Day events, in your FLISOL events, don’t
> install or recommend Ubuntu. Instead, tell people that Ubuntu is shunned
> for spying.
>
> …and
>
> Any excuse Canonical offers is inadequate; even if it used all the
> money it gets from Amazon to develop free software, that can hardly
> overcome what free software will lose if it ceases to offer an effective
> way to avoid abuse of the users.
>
> These statements simply generate fear, uncertainty, and doubt about
> Ubuntu; a project that has a long history of bringing Free Software to
> millions of users around the world with an open community and governance.
>
> But then again, this is not particularly surprising from Richard.
>
> I have tremendous respect for Richard and his fantastic work in laying
> the foundations for the Free Software and Open Source world that we have
> today, but I think he is short-sighted at times. His views on software
> projects are pretty binary: either a strict set of ethics (defined by
> him) are observed, or it should be shunned.
>
> The challenge here is that freedom is also a deeply personal thing.
>
> I believe that freedom is far more than simply freedom of source code or
> a specific policy around privacy. When I got involved in the Free
> Software community 14 years ago my passion from then onwards was not
> driven by creating awesome Free Software code, it was more about
> creating awesome Free Software experiences that open up technology,
> education, creativity and collaboration to everyone. Free Software code
> is simply one mechanic in how we deliver these experiences; it is not
> the be all and end all of what we do.
>
> A completely free set of source code that implements a system that is
> difficult to use, lacks the features that users want, is not competitive
> with proprietary competitors, and/or does not offer a desirable and
> delightful experience is not going to bring Free Software to the wider
> world. It may bring Free Software to a passionate collection of
> enthusiasts (as we saw back in the early days of Linux), but in my mind
> true freedom is software that is not just available to all but usable by
> all, even those who are not enthusiasts.
>
> Just look at the success of Apple. General consumers have voted with
> their feet, and people want beautiful, desirable products that let them
> do useful and fun things with their friends, families and colleagues.
> There is absolutely no reason why we can’t achieve this with Free Software.
>
> In Ubuntu we want to build a platform that is even more beautiful,
> elegant and delightful than Apple, but is infused with the Free Software
> values that empower that technology, education, creativity and
> collaboration in everyone.
>
> But unfortunately, as far as Richard is concerned, if Ubuntu doesn’t
> meet his specific requirements around privacy or Free Software,
> irrespective that it has brought Free Software to millions of users and
> thousands of organizations, and despite the fact that you might not
> share his viewpoint, you should shun it.
>
> This just seems a bit childish to me.
>
> Let’s turn the tables around. Do I agree with everything the Free
> Software Foundation does? Not at all, but I do think their general body
> of work is fantastic, worthwhile, and provides an important and valuable
> service, and I would never want to suggest you should boycott them if
> you disagree with one part of what they do. Quite the opposite, I would
> encourage you to see their website, donate, and consider joining them as
> they provide a valuable piece of the wider Free Software ecosystem, in
> much the same way Ubuntu provides another piece. Let’s work together,
> not against each other.
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