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    <p><tt>IPv6 en LTE anda, de hecho ya me ha pasado de comprar chips
        por ahí y que vengan con IPv6. ANTEL se que ha hecho pruebas,
        supongo que saldrán pronto también.</tt></p>
    <p><tt>Sobre la segunda pregunta, ventaja creo que no tiene ninguna</tt><br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/19/2017 11:16 PM, Nick Pais
      wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAErJbqXOLP3Nf9DamNWPiB_t0041OyNpcBv4V3rBiyqu3pv1NA@mail.gmail.com">
      <div dir="ltr">Se ve que hubo un boost de actividad a partir de
        éste mes, recuerdo haber visto en la presentación de Antel de
        LACNIC27 (<a
href="http://slides.lacnic.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/antes-exitoscasos.pdf"
          moz-do-not-send="true">http://slides.lacnic.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/antes-exitoscasos.pdf</a>)
        que los dos primeros saltos eran "experimentales". Netflix anda
        bien de bien igual!
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Todavía no he visto nada sobre LTE DualStack, tal vez no
          esté pronto para uso "masivo". Alguien sabe?</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Pregunta: Hay algún beneficio en que se usen las
          IPv6-mapped-IPv4's, aún si es interno? Ver saltos 4, 5 &
          6:</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>
          <div><font face="monospace, monospace"> nick@npais-reliam  ~
               mtr -w -r -c10 <a href="http://www.lacnic.net"
                moz-do-not-send="true">www.lacnic.net</a></font></div>
          <div><font face="monospace, monospace">Start: Mon Jun 19
              23:07:42 2017</font></div>
          <div><font face="monospace, monospace">HOST: npais-reliam    
                                            Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg
               Best  Wrst StDev</font></div>
          <div><font face="monospace, monospace">  1.|--
              2800:a4:17e6:f800::1                            0.0%    10
                 1.6   1.7   1.4   2.4   0.0</font></div>
          <div><font face="monospace, monospace">  2.|-- ???            
                                             100.0    10    0.0   0.0  
              0.0   0.0   0.0</font></div>
          <div><font face="monospace, monospace">  3.|--
              2800:a0:301:c828:a110:1f00:0:10                 0.0%    10
                 4.4   5.2   4.3   6.4   0.3</font></div>
          <div><font face="monospace, monospace">  4.|--
              ::ffff:192.168.10.6                             0.0%    10
                35.4  34.0  32.6  35.6   0.9</font></div>
          <div><font face="monospace, monospace">  5.|--
              ::ffff:192.168.10.1                             0.0%    10
                33.0  33.7  32.5  35.7   0.8</font></div>
          <div><font face="monospace, monospace">  6.|--
              ::ffff:192.168.197.2                            0.0%    10
                31.6  32.3  31.5  34.5   0.7</font></div>
          <div><font face="monospace, monospace">  7.|-- <a
                href="http://as6057.saopaulo.sp.ix.br"
                moz-do-not-send="true">as6057.saopaulo.sp.ix.br</a>    
                                20.0%    10   32.4  33.1  32.4  34.5  
              0.4</font></div>
          <div><font face="monospace, monospace">  8.|-- <a
                href="http://as16735.saopaulo.sp.ix.br"
                moz-do-not-send="true">as16735.saopaulo.sp.ix.br</a>    
                                0.0%    10   59.4  59.7  58.9  61.9  
              0.7</font></div>
          <div><font face="monospace, monospace">  9.|-- <a
                href="http://et-3-0-0-0.core-a.spo511.algartelecom.com.br"
                moz-do-not-send="true">et-3-0-0-0.core-a.spo511.algartelecom.com.br</a>
                 0.0%    10   79.2  79.3  78.6  82.5   1.0</font></div>
          <div><font face="monospace, monospace"> 10.|-- <a
                href="http://et-2-3-0-0.core-a.spo-piaf.algartelecom.com.br"
                moz-do-not-send="true">et-2-3-0-0.core-a.spo-piaf.algartelecom.com.br</a>
               0.0%    10   72.8  76.6  72.7  90.5   5.7</font></div>
          <div><font face="monospace, monospace"> 11.|-- <a
                href="http://et-3-0-0-0.edge-d.spo-piaf.algartelecom.com.br"
                moz-do-not-send="true">et-3-0-0-0.edge-d.spo-piaf.algartelecom.com.br</a>
               0.0%    10   61.9  61.7  61.0  62.6   0.0</font></div>
          <div><font face="monospace, monospace"> 12.|--
              2001:1291:1602:24::b                            0.0%    10
                60.2  60.7  58.9  62.3   0.7</font></div>
          <div><font face="monospace, monospace"> 13.|-- <a
                href="http://xe-5-0-1-0.core1.jd.registro.br"
                moz-do-not-send="true">xe-5-0-1-0.core1.jd.registro.br</a>
                              0.0%    10   75.5  76.0  74.9  81.0   1.7</font></div>
          <div><font face="monospace, monospace"> 14.|-- <a
                href="http://xe-0-0-0.ar3.nu.registro.br"
                moz-do-not-send="true">xe-0-0-0.ar3.nu.registro.br</a>  
                                0.0%    10   61.5  61.3  59.7  62.3  
              0.6</font></div>
          <div><font face="monospace, monospace"> 15.|-- <a
                href="http://gw01.lacnic.registro.br"
                moz-do-not-send="true">gw01.lacnic.registro.br</a>      
                                0.0%    10   60.9  60.8  59.7  62.0  
              0.5</font></div>
          <div><font face="monospace, monospace"> 16.|--
              2001:13c7:7002:2032::4                          0.0%    10
                62.0  61.4  60.8  62.0   0.0</font></div>
          <div><font face="monospace, monospace"> 17.|-- <a
                href="http://www.lacnic.net" moz-do-not-send="true">www.lacnic.net</a>
                                               0.0%    10   61.7  61.4
               60.9  62.1   0.0</font></div>
          <div><font face="monospace, monospace"> nick@npais-reliam  ~
               </font></div>
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      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">2017-06-19 23:06 GMT-03:00 Carlos
          Martinez <span dir="ltr"><<a
              href="mailto:carlosmarcelomartinez@gmail.com"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">carlosmarcelomartinez@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div dir="ltr">Si quiren seguir la evolución del Uruguay:
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div><a
href="http://stats.labs.lacnic.net/API/IPv6/CREATEGRAPHIPv6WITHCONTROLS/UY"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://stats.labs.lacnic.net/<wbr>API/IPv6/<wbr>CREATEGRAPHIPv6WITHCONTROLS/UY</a><br>
              </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>(pueden cambiar el CC al final por otros de la
                región)</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Mi trace:</div>
              <div>
                <p class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-p1"><span
                    class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-s1"><font
                      face="monospace, monospace">carpincho:~ carlos$
                      sudo mtr -w -r -c10 <a
                        href="http://www.lacnic.net" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">www.lacnic.net</a></font></span></p>
                <p class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-p1"><span
                    class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-s1"><font
                      face="monospace, monospace">Start:
                      2017-06-19T23:05:12-0300</font></span></p>
                <p class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-p1"><span
                    class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-s1"><font
                      face="monospace, monospace">HOST: carpincho       
                                                    Loss%   Snt   Last  
                      Avg  Best  Wrst StDev</font></span></p>
                <p class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-p1"><span
                    class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-s1"><font
                      face="monospace, monospace">  1.|--
                      2800:a4:822:bd00::                             
                      0.0%    10    1.3   1.4   1.3   2.4   0.3</font></span></p>
                <p class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-p1"><span
                    class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-s1"><font
                      face="monospace, monospace">  2.|-- ???           
                                                      100.0    10    0.0
                        0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0</font></span></p>
                <p class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-p1"><span
                    class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-s1"><font
                      face="monospace, monospace">  3.|-- ???           
                                                      100.0    10    0.0
                        0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0</font></span></p>
                <p class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-p1"><span
                    class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-s1"><font
                      face="monospace, monospace">  4.|-- ???           
                                                      100.0    10    0.0
                        0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0</font></span></p>
                <p class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-p1"><span
                    class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-s1"><font
                      face="monospace, monospace">  5.|-- ???           
                                                      100.0    10    0.0
                        0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0</font></span></p>
                <p class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-p1"><span
                    class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-s1"><font
                      face="monospace, monospace">  6.|-- ???           
                                                      100.0    10    0.0
                        0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0</font></span></p>
                <p class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-p1"><span
                    class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-s1"><font
                      face="monospace, monospace">  7.|-- ???           
                                                      100.0    10    0.0
                        0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0</font></span></p>
                <p class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-p1"><span
                    class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-s1"><font
                      face="monospace, monospace">  8.|-- <a
                        href="http://as16735.saopaulo.sp.ix.br"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">as16735.saopaulo.sp.ix.br</a>
                                            0.0%    10   58.9  59.2 
                      58.4  60.4   0.7</font></span></p>
                <p class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-p1"><span
                    class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-s1"><font
                      face="monospace, monospace">  9.|-- <a
                        href="http://et-3-0-0-0.core-a.spo511.algartelecom.com.br"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">et-3-0-0-0.core-a.spo511.<wbr>algartelecom.com.br</a> 
                        0.0%    10   76.5  77.8  76.2  85.0   2.6</font></span></p>
                <p class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-p1"><span
                    class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-s1"><font
                      face="monospace, monospace"> 10.|-- <a
                        href="http://et-2-3-0-0.core-a.spo-piaf.algartelecom.com.br"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">et-2-3-0-0.core-a.spo-piaf.<wbr>algartelecom.com.br</a> 
                      0.0%    10   70.5  74.2  70.5  83.2   4.9</font></span></p>
                <p class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-p1"><span
                    class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-s1"><font
                      face="monospace, monospace"> 11.|-- <a
                        href="http://et-3-0-0-0.edge-d.spo-piaf.algartelecom.com.br"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">et-3-0-0-0.edge-d.spo-piaf.<wbr>algartelecom.com.br</a> 
                      0.0%    10   60.2  59.5  59.0  60.2   0.4</font></span></p>
                <p class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-p1"><span
                    class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-s1"><font
                      face="monospace, monospace"> 12.|--
                      2001:1291:1602:24::b                           
                      0.0%    10   58.0  57.5  57.0  58.0   0.2</font></span></p>
                <p class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-p1"><span
                    class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-s1"><font
                      face="monospace, monospace"> 13.|-- <a
                        href="http://xe-5-0-1-0.core1.jd.registro.br"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">xe-5-0-1-0.core1.jd.registro.<wbr>br</a>
                                      0.0%    10   59.2  59.6  59.2 
                      60.6   0.5</font></span></p>
                <p class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-p1"><span
                    class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-s1"><font
                      face="monospace, monospace"> 14.|-- <a
                        href="http://xe-0-0-0.ar3.nu.registro.br"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">xe-0-0-0.ar3.nu.registro.br</a>
                                          0.0%    10   59.9  60.1  59.6 
                      61.4   0.6</font></span></p>
                <p class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-p1"><span
                    class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-s1"><font
                      face="monospace, monospace"> 15.|-- <a
                        href="http://gw01.lacnic.registro.br"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gw01.lacnic.registro.br</a>
                                              0.0%    10   58.7  58.9 
                      58.6  59.5   0.3</font></span></p>
                <p class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-p1"><span
                    class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-s1"><font
                      face="monospace, monospace"> 16.|--
                      2001:13c7:7002:2032::4                         
                      0.0%    10   59.1  59.2  58.4  60.2   0.4</font></span></p>
                <p class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-p1"><span
                    class="m_-7977133631361507033gmail-s1"><font
                      face="monospace, monospace"> 17.|-- <a
                        href="http://www.lacnic.net" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">www.lacnic.net</a>       
                                                0.0%    10   58.1  58.0 
                      57.2  60.0   0.8</font></span></p>
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            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
              <div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">2017-06-19 22:30
                  GMT-03:00 Nick Pais <span dir="ltr"><<a
                      href="mailto:nick@nickserver.net" target="_blank"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">nick@nickserver.net</a>></span>:<br>
                </span>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                  .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                  <div>
                    <div class="h5">
                      <div dir="ltr">
                        <div>Buenas noches lista,</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Quería preguntarles quienes andan usando
                          IPv6 y si es IPv6 nativo de Antel?</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Hace poco, me di cuenta que Antel ya anda
                          entregando SLAAC/IPv6 PD para los servicios
                          residenciales. Aunque sigan siendo rangos
                          dinámicos (un /56 dinámico cuando poseen un
                          /28...) no he visto grandes inconvenientes
                          (más que las rutas no suelen ser óptimas).</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Ayer noté que empezaron a anunciar el /28
                          en rangos más específicos: </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>[1]: <a
                            href="http://i.imgur.com/TTGvzS4.png"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://i.imgur.com/TTGvzS<wbr>4.png</a></div>
                        <div>[2]: ​<a
                            href="http://i.imgur.com/HUgRUFM.png"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://i.imgur.com/HUgRUFM.pn<wbr>g</a></div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>(Cortesía de <a
                            href="http://bgp.he.net/AS6057#_asinfo"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://bgp.he.net/AS6057#_asin<wbr>fo</a>
                          y <a
                            href="http://bgp.he.net/AS6057#_prefixes6"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://bgp.he.net/AS6057#_pref<wbr>ixes6</a>,
                          respectivamente).</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>He notado también que los PoP de Netflix
                          (los CDN) en Uruguay ya están con DualStack:</div>
                        <div>
                          <div>Buenas noches lista,</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Quería preguntarles quienes andan usando
                            IPv6 y si es IPv6 nativo de Antel?</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Hace poco, me di cuenta que Antel ya anda
                            entregando SLAAC/IPv6 PD para los servicios
                            residenciales. Aunque sigan siendo rangos
                            dinámicos (un /56 dinámico cuando poseen un
                            /28...) no he visto grandes inconvenientes
                            (más que prefieran a TIWS [AS12956] para
                            tránsito internacional... Y si tienes que ir
                            a Los Ángeles te pasean por New York
                            primero...).</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Ayer noté que empezaron a anunciar el /28
                            en fracciones: </div>
                          <div>​</div>
                          <div>(Cortesía de <a
                              href="http://bgp.he.net/AS6057#_asinfo"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://bgp.he.net/AS6057#_asin<wbr>fo</a>
                            y <a
                              href="http://bgp.he.net/AS6057#_prefixes6"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://bgp.he.net/AS6057#_pref<wbr>ixes6</a>,
                            respectivamente).</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>He notado también que los PoP de Netflix
                            (los CDN) en Uruguay ya están con DualStack:</div>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
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                        <div>
                          <div style="font-size:12.8px">
                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                              style="margin:0px 0px 0px
                              0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                              rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font
                                face="monospace, monospace"> nick@npais-reliam
                                 ~  mtr -w -r -c 10 <a
                                  href="http://ipv6_1-lagg0-c006.1.mvd001.antel.isp.nflxvideo.net/"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ipv6_1-lagg0-c006.1.mvd001.<wbr>antel.isp.nflxvideo.net</a> -y0<br>
                                Start: Sun Jun 18 00:11:08 2017<br>
                                HOST: npais-reliam                      
                                      Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best
                                 Wrst StDev<br>
                                  1. AS6057   2800:a4:1758:db00::1      
                                       0.0%    10    1.5   1.7   1.2  
                                3.0   0.3<br>
                                  2. AS???    ???                      
                                       100.0    10    0.0   0.0   0.0  
                                0.0   0.0<br>
                                  3. AS6057  
                                2800:a0:301:c828:a110:1f00:0:1<wbr>0  
                                0.0%    10    5.4  11.3   3.5  65.9
                                 19.2<br>
                                  4. AS???    ::ffff:192.168.2.221      
                                       0.0%    10    6.8   7.4   6.4
                                 14.4   2.4<br>
                                  5. AS6057   2800:a0:10:226::1        
                                        0.0%    10    5.6   6.0   5.3  
                                9.2   1.1<br>
                                  6. AS6057   2800:a0:10:226::2        
                                        0.0%    10    5.3   5.0   4.7  
                                5.6   0.0<br>
                                 nick@npais-reliam  ~  host <a
                                  href="http://ipv6_1-lagg0-c006.1.mvd001.antel.isp.nflxvideo.net/"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ipv6_1-lagg0-c006.1.mvd00<wbr>1.antel.isp.nflxvideo.net</a><br>
                                <a
                                  href="http://ipv6_1-lagg0-c006.1.mvd001.antel.isp.nflxvideo.net/"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ipv6_1-lagg0-c006.1.mvd001.ant<wbr>el.isp.nflxvideo.net</a> has
                                address 179.31.57.44<br>
                                <a
                                  href="http://ipv6_1-lagg0-c006.1.mvd001.antel.isp.nflxvideo.net/"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ipv6_1-lagg0-c006.1.mvd001.ant<wbr>el.isp.nflxvideo.net</a> has
                                IPv6 address 2800:a0:10:226::2<br>
                                 nick@npais-reliam  ~  </font></blockquote>
                            ​</div>
                          <div style="font-size:12.8px">Cabe aclarar que
                            mi setup es un ONT común en modo "bridge"
                            con un MikroTik RB3100 haciendo toda la
                            magia.</div>
                          <div style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
                          </div>
                          <div style="font-size:12.8px">Por lo visto,
                            tengo las mismas velocidades por IPv6 que
                            por IPv4, basados en <a
                              href="http://www.adsltest.com.uy/"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.adsltest.com.uy</a> (es
                            dualstack!).</div>
                          <div style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
                          </div>
                          <div style="font-size:12.8px">Alguien ha
                            experimentado problemas? Ya sabían de que
                            IPv6 nativo de Antel es "live"?</div>
                          <div style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
                          </div>
                          <div style="font-size:12.8px">Saludos!</div>
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